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(This is where my 2013 fandom meme was supposed to be, but well, those suckers are harder and longer to fill out than I thought.
Harry: What does this song mean? For my whole life I don't know what this song means. I mean, 'Should old acquaintance be forgot". Does that mean we should forget old acquaintances or does it mean if we happen to forget them we should remember them, which is not possible because we already forgot them!?
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Date: 2014-01-11 11:10 am (UTC)Guess I'll have to do that list to unveil it. ;)
Yes, basically almost the whole of season 4 more of it, that horrible horrible season, the only Angel season I never watched again after the first time! But yes, Cordy/Angel love should be a requirement for everybody! But then at least I think so should Chloe/Dean love, so who am I to demand it. ;) Lol, I meant Cordy's death! The end scene of 'You're welcome'! I always cry like a little baby!!! And I'm glad they didn't show the transference of the visions in that shot.
Yes, I know about Ryan, both that it happened and that it was well executed, because I might have stalked the Nikita tag on tumblr to find out what happened in the last two episodes and get visuals, but as so often I realized that at least when it comes to the visual tumblr is horribly biased towards the romantic ships on shows! Yes, I might switch it around though I guess I could get together 5 traumatic events that happened on tv shows, though my memory is becoming increasingly bad each year, so that would be a challenge too.
Hm, I don't think Martha, Lois or Oliver ever died real or fake, but I could have just forgotten about it. Okay, I just remembered we can scratch Oliver of that list, one version of him died in Luthor?, the Earth 2 Oliver anyway and I guess we can assume that he also died in Pandora, though we didn't get to see that one.
Lol, yes, for somebody whose supposedly invulnerable/indestructible Clark did die quite often. If it weren't for his daddy and his martian guardian the guy would be dead dead (he died in hidden (the gunshot wound) and in odyssey (arrows through his torso) and he should have been dead after falling with blueK on him off that building in Salvation/Lazarus (the removal of the stone making it all better again was a copout, imo), and not just in a throw a rock away and he'll be fine kinda dead, those are the three times I can remember. Yep, Clark/Lois was less destructive for the people around them but Clark still liked to trash talk the guys Lois was with, even if they were good ones and even way back in season 5 with AC with that ridiculously cheesy shot of them at the end of the episode. Clark just never made for the best boyfriend material, which is one of the reasons I think Chloe is the lucky one for escaping that fate.
And yes, I think it would have been interesting to see what would have changed if Pete had stayed, especially for Chloe's storylines from season 4 onwards because like you said they were the ones most affected by his departure, while Clark/Lana probably would have stayed pretty much the same.
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Date: 2014-01-21 10:05 pm (UTC)And I'll just have to wait and see what it is.
See, I actually like S4. I'm biased because it was the first season of Angel I ever watched episodes of, so going in I didn't know the characters the same as everyone else, but I still enjoy it and I do rewatch it. Though I admit to there obviously be lots of problematic things. But I like darker Wesley and Angelus and Faith and it has Gina Torres and the end Fred arc makes me happy. So yeah...This might be one of those things we disagree on. BUT I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU ON CORDELIA'S DEATH. That whole episode and then that scene. Yeah, it makes me cry too. Especially because now I've seen comparisons to that and the pilot, where she tells him that its all just temporary and then her telling him she can't stay. And yeah, it makes it so much worse. (I'm a sucker for parallels and foreshadowing but that doesn't mean it doesn't hurt.)
LOL, stalking the Nikita tag probably helped. Though I agree, most things fandom related tend to be geared far more towards pairings (canon or not) than character related or friendships. Which is kind of sad (despite how much I love some of those parings), I would love for more character-centric stories to read instead of pairing centric. I mean, I enjoy both and I probably write more of the pairing centric so I'm as much to blame as anyone, but still. It would be nice.
I think you're right about Martha, she almost died a bunch of times, but never actually died. For Oliver, both times you included and I'm pretty sure he flat-lined in Toxic, though obviously they saved him. And I always thought Lois died in the end of S6 when Chloe healed her. It never specifically says it, but I always thought she did. There was way too much blood loss and the time it would have taken Chloe to get there...I can't imagine her surviving. LOL, see I forgotten like half the times Clark died. He really has to work on that indestructible thing.
It's true. Clark/Lois was far less destructive, but it doesn't mean he was really all that nice to any of her boyfriends. I mean even him and Oliver struggled with friendship for most of their time on the show, it wasn't until the last season that I think they really were friends who understood each other. Or as most as they could. LOL, its true. It might have been best she dodged that bullet. But then, out of everyone, I think Chloe always knew the best what should would have been getting into. But it still would have been Clark and well, we've discussed this. ;D
Its one of those things that I think will always bug me. Because Sam Jones asked to leave, they didn't write him out, so you know things would have definitely been different. But different how?
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Date: 2014-01-22 12:22 pm (UTC)Yep, you do. :D
Well, I watched seasons 1-3 before season 4 and I'm a HUGE Cordelia fan, and I absolutely HATE what they did with her character in season 4, which is why once was enough, even if the season apart from that wasn't all bad. My favorite season will always be season 1. (I usually have a soft spot for the first season of a show even if the online fans usually complain about the monster/freak/case of the week set up they often have and which personally I actually quite enjoy.) But I get watching seasons out of order influencing your view of a show, the same happened with me and BtVS of which I first watched season 7, (though I never was much of a fan of the potentials) which significantly influenced my perception of especially Spike and Angel and is the main reason I never got into Buffy/Angel and it took me a while to warm up to Angel. And after reading at least a bit about the online opinion of season 7, I have to say that I probably like it better than most others do too.
haha, yes! I complain about it too but am not much help doing something about it either. Oh no, we're hypocrites, I think we need to do something about it. :)
Oh right, the introduction of Chloe's power, I forgot about that. Yeah, I think Lois died there, anything else would have been unrealistic, and I think otherwise Chloe wouldn't have died either since in Fracture Lex did flatline before Chloe healed him and died as a consequence. So, I guess it's only Martha and Pete who escaped the fate of dying/fake death.
Lol, Clark really is like an animal fighting off any male competition for the females of his herd. Of course Chloe is better than that and better off without him as her boyfriend. Her broken hero in his black car definitely is the better choice.
Well, that's entirely up to you. ;) Head canons galore.