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So I just got through rewatching S5 of Buffy. And I was so excited because it had been so long since I had seen it (Its one of the season I don't own yet) and its Dawn's first season and I love Dawn. But even though I knew everything about the season, I forgot how much it effected me and how well its done and just.

I cried a lot. A LOT. And kind of cursed Joss Whedon and all the actors because, was that really necessary?The Joyce arc just really gets to me. Her being sick, Buffy and Dawn dealing with it, thinkings its all better and then her dying anyways. And then the reactions to it, from everyone, but especially Dawn and Buffy. And I just. I keep needing tissues. Despite never losing a parent, so much of it just hit too close to home.

Also, Dawn's arc and the key-ness and her purpose. It made me think of how much the tvd fandom likes to compare Elena to Buffy, but Dawn really seems like so much more of an appropriate comparisson. (I've thought this before and possibly seen it somewhere too, but rewatching S5 really drove it home. Dawn is made to be both protected and for a blood ritual. And so is Elena. Neither of them are evil, but their sought after, leave death in their wake and their blood is the cause of breaking the curse placed on something much more powerful than anyone around them. And in the end, when they realize that the only way to stop it is for them to die, they're willing to do it. Dawn tries to run past Buffy and into the energy to stop the end of the world. Elena plans to die to protect the loved ones she has left. They are very different characters, but there role in the text itself is very similiar. So I don't understand why the comparison isn't made more...


And I just kept over-relating to everyone in different episodes. And then all the wonderful Dawn stuff. Can I just say, I can't understand how anyone doesn't love Dawn? Or at least the amount of fandom hate that she apparently gets. Because I just find her so easy to fall in love with as a character and everything that she goes through in just that one season and she manages not break, not completely. And then when I realize everything else she goes through in the next to seasons. I just want to hug her.

Obviously as you can see, I'm in a giant Dawn loving mood. Anybody out there have some good Dawn fic recs? Because I would love to read some.

Date: 2013-09-24 01:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lisal825.livejournal.com
Honestly, having now seen all seasons, I would not be mad if it had ended after S5. What an ending!!!

Date: 2013-09-25 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lynzie914.livejournal.com
Well I love a lot of the stuff that comes in the last two seasons, so having already seen it I wouldn't want it gone. But yes, if this actually was the finale, I would have been happy with that. It was an awesome episode to end an amazing season. And it makes sense in a lot of ways, that it would have been the end of this chapter of the Slayer diaries when Buffy herself died.

(Though I love Buffy, so I'm glad that in the actual finale she did survive. XD)

Also, lots of icon love.

Date: 2013-09-26 04:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloodconfetti.livejournal.com
I didn't LOVE Dawn, but I don't think I ever hated her. I love her and Spike to DEATH. But other than that, I had always been really weirded out by her presence, and I HATE the idea that Buffy could love Dawn more than herself, or that Dawn could be the only part of herself that she loves, and so in that sense, I had issues with Dawn existing because Buffy is and always will be one of the best characters to EVER exist.

Date: 2013-09-27 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lynzie914.livejournal.com
Well, first of all I agree. Buffy is amazing. And definitely one of those iconic type of characters that are just amazing and you're happy that existed. Also, yes. I love Dawn and Spike scenes, they're amazing and there should have been more of them imo.

See I think this is the difference. A lot of people in fandom don't seem to like Dawn for being Dawn (and usually for reasons that don't make sense in my opinion and often seem to be grasping at straws for excuses not actively hate her.), whatever problems you have with Dawn seem to be with her place in the narrative and not Dawn the character herself and that's different. (IMO at least.) I'd probably disagree with most of what you said, but that's just a difference of opinion. For me it was always that Buffy loved Dawn in a different way than she loved herself, because that's just how sibling/family relationships work. Its not that she loved her more or that she thought she was the only part of her worth loving, just that she loved her differently than she knew how to love herself. I always thought that the later seasons especially were about Buffy finding a way to accept and love herself for who she was, and Dawn was part of the narrative, but never the cause or reason. But again, I think we just have different views on the situation, that happens. We still agree on all the Buffy love. XD


Date: 2013-09-27 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloodconfetti.livejournal.com
Exactly. I never disliked her as a person. It was just how she was introduced, and how the other characters reacted to her, that ever really bothered me about Dawn.

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