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lynzie914 ([personal profile] lynzie914) wrote2014-11-09 12:40 pm

make me your aphrodite

A post full of randomness basically.

+Somebody should totally make me a Steroline video to Leighton Meester’s new song Heartstrings. Partly because I’m newly obsessed with it and partly because its perfect for the beginning of S5 and where their relationship is right now.

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I’ve been loving all the Stefan/Caroline scenes this season. Ship it don’t ship it, its wonderful. It’s all about their relationship, Caroline verbalizing everything so you know her part, whether she's verbalizing it to Stefan or not, and Stefan saying things to the audience that Caroline can’t hear, with his eyes and body. And even if its in front of Caroline, she can't see or hear it. And its horribly beautiful and I love it.

AND I LOVE ALL OF IT. I love Caroline resenting him for just leaving. I love him not being able to listen to her phone calls, out of everyone she is the only one he doesn't answer. I love her calling him a dick and walking out on him, because well, he was being one. I love her trying to get him to stay, opening up and asking him to stay, and him walking away. (A theme in her life.) And I love him dumping Ivy on her, leaving, and then returning, and her telling him she wishes he would just leave. And then this latest episode, where he doesn't seem to get it at all, doesn't apologize at all and Caroline leaves him there all alone, when he's finally gotten what he's wanted and tells him she doesn't want to be friends anymore.

ITS ALL ANGST. ITS ALL HORRIBLE AND WONDERFUL AND PERFECT AND I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT IT.

Its all just such a wonderful progress for their relationship, Caroline growing less reliant on Stefan, seeing that he’s not always the hero, he’s sometimes the dick Salvatore too. (There is no good Salvatore Brother, its the secret no one's willing to admit.) All of these things needed for her to truly see him if a relationship is ever going to happen. And I’d like a slow burn please. :D (Though I also want to see their faces smooshed together, so show, don't let me down.)

But back to the song. Not all the lyrics fit but there’s lines like Now you're feeling all alone, I bet you're sorry now but that’s what you wanted. and You only did this to yourself. and finally, I was fighting, for you. Now I'm fine without you.

Seriously how perfect would that video be? I’d even take art or anything. It would just be perfect.

But then, I like a good angsty video...



+I have a lot of Arrow feelings. Mostly Thea and Felicity related (especially after the last episode). But I don't know how to voice them. Someone come talk to me.

+I'm rewatching S5 of Buffy at the moment. And I spent like half of last night bawling. Its probably my favorite season (though I'm glad the show doesn't end that season for many reasons), but yeah, it makes me cry. Dawn and Buffy and Joyce. I CRY.

+And a meme, because I love memes and sometimes they encourage my muse. sometimes they don't.

Give me a character and I will tell you:

How I feel about this character:
All the people I ship romantically with this character:
My non-romantic OTP for this character:
My unpopular opinion about this character:
One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon:
My het ship:
My fem/slash ship:
My OTP:
My OT3:
My cross over ship:
A headcanon fact:
My gender bend:


(Fandoms mostly in my profile page. Otherwise you can just shout out characters until we get one that we both know. :D)

[identity profile] chleansmile.livejournal.com 2014-11-09 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I 100% agree with you on everything Steroline! I actually think, especially for TVD standards, the show is handling them quite well. And it was a good way to let Stefan act like a jerk, because it's understandable and forgiveable (since he was acting out of grieve and trying to figure out a way how to just be without his brother and the likely prospect of never seeing him again, and lets face it he's the only one of them who can even begin to understand what it's like to live eternity without somebody) but not excusable because at the end of the day bad behavior never is. And it's good that he acted that way not just in general but to Caroline, so that like you said she would realize that Stefan is just as capable of acting like a dick as everybody else, and of course for any future relationship of theirs it's good to know for both of them that they can work through something like this.



I would talk to you about Arrow, but I don't watch it. Sorry.


Okay, I'm sure somebody else already gave you her for one of these at some point but I realized that I know she's one of your favorites but I actually don't really know your answers to these (at least not for certain, I can only guess at some. :)

Winifred 'Fred' Burkle. :)


ETA: And of course I can't really help with that vid either because I don't possess TVD season 5, but if you have a song (one that you possess and could send me as mp3 if needed) that you want Chlex to be vidded to you can give me that because I wanna try vidding a pairing from the same show for once. (though this one would be a challenge for me too because I'm not that familiar with all of Lex's scenes)
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[identity profile] lynzie914.livejournal.com 2014-11-10 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, exactly! I love that we're on the same page on this. I'm loving what their doing with the two of them. Because like you said, you can see both sides. You see the girl who lost everything and was reaching out to the one person who was always supposed to be there. "I promise I won't let anything happen to you." Especially after how close they had gotten last year, and more than that she because she watched him die.

And then Stefan, well he is being a dick. But his loss of Damon is fueling so much of it. And you get that when you see the whole story, when you see that his "new life" includes lettng guys at bars beat him up because he thinks he deserves it. But Caroline doesn't know all that, she doesn't know about the guilt or him feeling lost, because he's not telling her. All she sees is another person who chose to walk out of her life. And like you said, even when you understand the bad behavior, it doesn't excuse the bad behavior.

And yes, I want this to lead to more. I want this to be the beginning of something more. Its Caroline fully seeing Stefan (because they kept the two away in S3 so she saw less of crazy ripper stefan/stefan going to far and honestly we don't even know how much she knows about what in S3 because the show never told us.) I want it to be them seeing each other for who they are, the real thems completly, and realizing that they love the whole person not just the parts that they've seen. (Like I said, a nice slow burn that ends up with lots of moments of their faces smooshed together.)



I know you would. :D



I LOVE that your considering doing a Chlex vid, because YAY! But off hand, I have nothng. Maybe if I think on it? But I'm totally here if you need help wth Lex scenes if you decide to do the vid. My memory might be a little fuzzy but I think I should be helpful there.

[identity profile] chleansmile.livejournal.com 2014-11-10 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
Everything you said, plus this time around there's no 'his switch was flipped to 'humanity - off'' to explain his shitty behavior, but the exact opposite in fact, Stefan acting like an *ss because his feelings over the loss of his brother are so overwhelming they eclipse everything else. Which actually might help Stefan's case if he would just come clean about everything to Caroline, because she definitely understands letting your feelings get the better of you.

[identity profile] lynzie914.livejournal.com 2014-11-10 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
Very true. That was the thing about the last episode and him trying to "fix" things with Caroline. He was looking for a list of things to do, but what he needed to do was well actually apologize and beyond that explain. That it wasn't Mystic Falls or Caroline that he was running from, that it was a life without his brother that he thought was permanent. That his actions were fueled by grief.

And like you said, Caroline is understanding (sometimes too much so) and I think if he would explain/remember that he hurt her, she would understand. She lost Bonnie too, she's lost other people and she wouldn't know how it felt to lose people that have been part of her life for so long, but Caroline would understand to the best of her ability.

[identity profile] lynzie914.livejournal.com 2014-11-10 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
Fred Burkle

How I feel about this character: Well, you already know, she’s my favorite Angel character. (Though Cordie is right up there next to her.) I love how multifaceted she is, how she’s so many different things, things that don’t seem like they should make up the same person, but they do and they do so convincingly. She’s both victim and victor. Victim and murderer even. She’s caring and compassionate, but at the same time filled with a vicious need for revenge for those who those who have wronged her. But she also feels the consequences of those actions; they don’t just roll off her shoulders. She’s a survivor, someone who fights for her own survival first and then on top of that, goes back and saves her friends. I think a lot of her character is summed up when we’re first meeting her, and she saves Wesley and Gunn from full-on-demon Angel; the wild and crazy majestic girl who trusted the man who saved her, who she had just met, enough to lead him away and did it with blood on her hands.
All the people I ship romantically with this character: Yeah…Fred is one of the characters I ship a lot with, though I do have an OTP for her. Unlike other characters, like Cordie for example. :D So….Wesley, Gunn, Spike, Angel, Willow (they totally had a moment), and sometimes Faith.
My non-romantic OTP for this character: Lorne; I love their relationship and that despite being treated so horribly by other types of demons like him, she accepts him as his own individual. How they banter and tease and make each other laugh and how even when she was her like sixteen year old self and she kind of thought he was Satan she still trusted him. After her death, how badly he takes it, how it changes him, is always so heartbreaking to me. I always think that in the end, she’s why he walked away from the group, because she was one of the most important people to him, and nothing he did or could do, saved her. He didn’t know that she was going to die or be taken over, couldn’t read it, couldn’t do anything to stop it. And I think it broke him a little. This took a sad turn. I apologize.
My unpopular opinion about this character: I think that I like her at all is kind of unpopular, LOL. Or at least that she’s my favorite. But umm…I’d say, that imo she’s not weak, frail little Fred always in need of saving, like some of the fandom seems to like to think of her. She is certainly not the fighter that most of the team is, but she’s not trained to be. But even from the beginning, she wasn’t weak. She had killed/was willing to kill demons in Pylea and when she returned to the world she knew, she saved herself in “Billy” on her own, against people she cared about, and she built the “not a toaster” gadget to help protect herself/for battle scenarios. And she did this all very early on in her introduction to the series. Yes, she needed help sometimes. But she was also strong and used what were her strengths and her own survival skills to protect herself.
One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon: This is kind of a twofold answer, because its either that she never would have died (despite my love of Illyria) or that season six had been allowed to happen and we could have explored that idea of Fred still be trapped in there/the separation of the two entities like I’ve read about their plans. Also, I would have liked a stronger/more shown friendship between her and Cordelia in S3. (S4 wouldn’t have allowed for it, obviously.) They showed their friendship at times, but we never really saw how they got there, but also I think it would have been interesting to see their different personalities interact.
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[identity profile] lynzie914.livejournal.com 2014-11-10 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
My het ship: I’m guessing this isn’t supposed to be your OTP, it’s supposed to be your second ship? Or just another ship you like? So, Fred/Spike probably, I loved their interactions and how she cared about him and thought he deserved a second chance, was a champion too. And I loved that he grew to care about her so easily, in the beginning she was a plan, but then he liked her. He saved her instead of himself because ultimately she meant something to him. She had believed in him and he didn’t have a lot of that in his life. (Also I always loved that out of everyone, he so easily saw the differences between her and Illyria despite how they looked. When he looked at her he didn’t see Fred, he saw the thing that killed her.)
My fem/slash ship: Fred/Willow; they only had the one crossover episode, but they were so cute together and their geekiness would be adorable, but also they would both have that darker edge that they would understand in each other.
My OTP: Fred/Wesley. They’re my ship, though I often think people read them wrong. I like the darker aspects of their relationship, like how she went to him to kill her professor or how she went to him in the hospital, still caring about him, but telling him never to come back for his own good and that everything he had done was for nothing, it was all a lie. These are the scenes that got me invested in them. Not fluffy scenes.
My OT3: I guess…Wesley/Fred/Gunn. It would solve the triangle problem and they could all just love each other instead of being angry at each other.
My cross over ship: Hmmm…Fred/Nick from Grimm or Fred/Sam from SPN. IDK, I feel like ultimately she would always be with someone who was fighting the good fight against the supernatural and yet, could also understand that not everything supernatural was bad.

I talk too much

[identity profile] lynzie914.livejournal.com 2014-11-10 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
A head canon fact: She translates problems and emotions into numbers and science she can understand; she tells stories with it, she goes to sleep to it, she comforts herself with it. For so long all she had was her own mind to keep her sane and company, that even back in her own world with people she loves, it’s easier to translate the world into science or numbers, because it’s something she understands.
My gender bend: I assume this means who’d I’d cast if she was male? Okay, so I thought a lot about this and honestly, I’m still not sure. But, I’m going with Paul Wesley (ignoring age/timing) because I think he could pull off the highs and lows, the victim and victor, and the insanity/need for vengeance. And just the normal woman man pulled into the world of the strange. Alll the things that make Fred Fred. as far as I know this has nothing to do with all the Stefan/Steroline talk.